He may be lurking around Upbound Conference, but don’t expect a a typical conversation.

Ask him where to eat in any city he’s been to. Ask which barbecue is actually worth the detour. Ask about the hidden restaurant, the perfect cocktail, or whatever fascinating rabbit hole he happens to be down that day. He’s a man of many talents, passions, and intrigue and he will not run out of things to talk about.

Have a drink with him. Have a great conversation. And if you’re nice enough he’ll share a very generous Upbound exclusive discount code to Elevate 2026 in Dallas.

What do you have to lose?